<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post6142115931247976008..comments</id><updated>2009-10-27T21:10:07.254+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Blog Responsable: AENOR viola la ISO 26000 para engendrar una norma ...</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/feeds/6142115931247976008/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html'/><author><name>F. Xavier Agulló</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14525453681378096417</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>7</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-1882838908520174171</id><published>2009-10-27T21:10:07.254+01:00</published><updated>2009-10-27T21:10:07.254+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Bueno, UNE 165010:2009 EX y RS 10:2009 son la mism...</title><summary type='text'>Bueno, UNE 165010:2009 EX y RS 10:2009 son la misma cosa. La cuestión estriba en que parece que además AENOR intentó agarrar la ISO 26000 en su borrador actual y convertirla en su UNE ISO 26000. Ante la evidente negativa de ISO, le cambió el nombre a la UNE 165010:2009 EX y listo, pa la calle. Teniendo en cuenta que es una guía y no una norma, y por lo tanto no tiene requisitos, que alguien me </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/1882838908520174171'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/1882838908520174171'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html?showComment=1256674207254#c1882838908520174171' title=''/><author><name>F. Xavier Agulló</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14525453681378096417</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='09128714103349841459'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-6142115931247976008' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/posts/default/6142115931247976008' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-544920931398999333</id><published>2009-10-27T17:28:50.760+01:00</published><updated>2009-10-27T17:28:50.760+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Hola Xavier. Al parecer existen tres guías o norma...</title><summary type='text'>Hola Xavier. Al parecer existen tres guías o normas de discusión en este artículo:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- ISO 26000 que está en estado de borrador&lt;br /&gt;- UNE 165010:2009 EX  guiá elaborada en AENOR, como todas las normas UNE y en la que partiparon grupos de interés. Y&lt;br /&gt;-  la nueva y todavía no publicada RS 10:2009 que es una especificación de AENOR Certificación para certificar de momento de manera </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/544920931398999333'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/544920931398999333'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html?showComment=1256660930760#c544920931398999333' title=''/><author><name>I. Gómez</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02192335154950926828</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-6142115931247976008' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/posts/default/6142115931247976008' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-4712316403044353494</id><published>2009-10-26T22:54:27.995+01:00</published><updated>2009-10-26T22:54:27.995+01:00</updated><title type='text'>hola Ignacio. La llamo 'ilegítima' porqué no nació...</title><summary type='text'>hola Ignacio. La llamo &amp;#39;ilegítima&amp;#39; porqué no nació &amp;#39;norma&amp;#39;, sino guía, luego AENOR engañó a los grupos de interés que la crearon, y se saltó su negativa y la hizo &amp;#39;norma&amp;#39;... bueno, luego se dan cuenta del &amp;#39;error&amp;#39; y la llaman &amp;#39;especificación&amp;#39;... Es también ilegítima porqué no se puede basar en algo que no está publicado (la ISO 26000). Es también ilegítima </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/4712316403044353494'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/4712316403044353494'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html?showComment=1256594067995#c4712316403044353494' title=''/><author><name>F. Xavier Agulló</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14525453681378096417</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='09128714103349841459'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-6142115931247976008' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/posts/default/6142115931247976008' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-2844579963089328723</id><published>2009-10-26T16:56:40.244+01:00</published><updated>2009-10-26T16:56:40.244+01:00</updated><title type='text'>hola a todos, 

¿Por qué es ilegítima la RS 10/200...</title><summary type='text'>hola a todos, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;¿Por qué es ilegítima la RS 10/2009 de AENOR? ¿Por qué la competencia que puede sentirse maltratada no ha creado antes una norma o guía similar para certificar a un cliente? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;La distinción entre norma y guia que se puede o no certificar es poner puertas al campo, siempre que exista mercado en certificar una actividad habrá una norma y entidad que certifique, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/2844579963089328723'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/2844579963089328723'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html?showComment=1256572600244#c2844579963089328723' title=''/><author><name>I. Gómez</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02192335154950926828</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-6142115931247976008' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/posts/default/6142115931247976008' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-3439551663227970963</id><published>2009-10-23T21:56:35.498+02:00</published><updated>2009-10-23T21:56:35.498+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Ahora parece que Aenor ha especificado, vía nota d...</title><summary type='text'>Ahora parece que Aenor ha especificado, vía nota de prensa, que la RS 10/2009 no es una &amp;#39;norma certificable&amp;#39;, sino una &amp;#39;especificación certificable&amp;#39;... o sea, en otras palabras, un &amp;#39;engaño certificable&amp;#39; en toda regla.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/3439551663227970963'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/3439551663227970963'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html?showComment=1256327795498#c3439551663227970963' title=''/><author><name>F. Xavier Agulló</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14525453681378096417</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='09128714103349841459'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-6142115931247976008' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/posts/default/6142115931247976008' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-3194735764039700715</id><published>2009-10-22T11:10:45.333+02:00</published><updated>2009-10-22T11:10:45.333+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Suscribo el nombre de "norma bastarda" que propone...</title><summary type='text'>Suscribo el nombre de &amp;quot;norma bastarda&amp;quot; que propone Josep Maria.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/3194735764039700715'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/3194735764039700715'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html?showComment=1256202645333#c3194735764039700715' title=''/><author><name>Rosa Alonso</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-6142115931247976008' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/posts/default/6142115931247976008' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-7727453940628704246</id><published>2009-10-21T20:14:11.386+02:00</published><updated>2009-10-21T20:14:11.386+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Xavier, tal como tuvimos oportunidad de comentar, ...</title><summary type='text'>Xavier, tal como tuvimos oportunidad de comentar, no debería ser propio de un organismo como AENOR un proceder tal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suscribo tu análisis. La acusación de nocturnidad y alevosía no es retórica. Ha habido nocturnidad y ha habido alevosía. Los grupos de interés tienen razón de sentirse traicionados. La competencia tiene razón de considerar la conducta como desleal. El mundo de la RSE </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/7727453940628704246'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/6142115931247976008/comments/default/7727453940628704246'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html?showComment=1256148851386#c7727453940628704246' title=''/><author><name>Josep Maria Canyelles</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09766490562007627323</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.blogresponsable.com/2009/10/aenor-viola-la-iso-26000-para-engendrar.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359691.post-6142115931247976008' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24359691/posts/default/6142115931247976008' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>